Obama's Ignorance of Defense

I suppose it is too much to ask the new Messiah to get his facts right, especially on defense issues.  But then again, Barack is soooo special.  Check out Barack's comments posted last October.  He proposes three things that, on the surface, seem eminently reasonable--stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq, cut the missile defense system, and set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons, which includes taking "ICBM's off hair trigger alert."  Watch it for yourself.

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Most of this is your normal political boilerplate.  Devoid of specifics and unlikely to be implemented.  For example, if Obama wants to go into a general election and argue that a missile defense system should be cut, good luck.  That plays right into the hands of the Republican message machine that will portrary Democrats as cowards unwilling to protect America.

What is really troubling, at least to me, is the amateur advice Obama is relying on.  He asserts that U.S. ICBM's are on "hair trigger" alert.  Sorry Barack, not true.  But don't take my word:

The Arms Control Association says differently:

November 2007

Q1) If "hair-trigger alert" and "launch-on-warning" are incorrect terms for describing the status of US forces on alert, what is the proper term?

A1) U.S. nuclear forces are not on "hair trigger" alert.  The term "hair trigger" ignores the safeguards, deliberate actions, and procedures required in order to employ nuclear weapons.  The U.S. nuclear force posture has evolved since the end of the Cold War.  Only a portion of the operationally deployed U.S. nuclear forces is maintained on a ready alert status.  No strategic bombers, 450 Minuteman III IBCMs, and a small number of SSBNs at sea are on alert at any given time.

U.S. policy is not to rely on a "launch on warning" strategy.  U.S. strategic forces are postured to provide maximum flexibility so the U.S. is not faced with a "use or lose" dilemma.  A major strike on the U.S. would be required to eliminate the responsive ICBM capability. The ICBM force could be launched prior to impact, but only if the President were to direct such an action.  In addition, should the ICBM force not be able to respond, the U.S. SSBNs at sea could deliver an overwhelming response if directed by the President.

Should the international security situation call for it, the U.S. could bring its nuclear forces to a higher state of readiness (i.e., "generated alert"), putting a larger portion of its submarines to sea and returning heavy bombers to alert, to increase their survivability.


I guess for a guy so busy running for President that he does not have time to chair a hearing on NATO or U.S. military policy in Europe it is understandable that he would be misinformed about fundamental facts about the U.S. nuclear arsenal.  Let's watch Barack defend eliminating the President's ability to respond in a timely manner if we are attacked by nukes.  Because, regardless of his magical rhetorical tap dancing, that is what his Republican opponent will seize on.  And Obama cannot pretend he did not say it.



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Foreign Policy (2.00 / 1)

Obama's position on the missile defense system is completely reasonable.  The missle defense system is a boondoggle for the Defense industry that protects us from weapons that no longer constitute the major threat to our nation.  Developing and maintaining the missile defense system diverts our nation's resources from developing effective counter-terrorism technologies.  Not to mention the fact that the deployment of our missile defense system is straining our diplomatic relations with Russia, a nation whose support is vital in our ability to battle Al Qaeda and pressure Iran to comply with UN nuclear mandates.

Moreover, Obama's approach to foreign policy in general, will be more effective at reducing the possibility of war.  His approach to rogue nations is more likely to solve conflicts peacefully than is Hillary's stated unwillingness to meet with leader of these nations without preconditions.


by DreamsOfABlueNation on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:18:13 PM EST

what his his position (2.00 / 2)

no missile defense systems?  Who doesn't have that position?  An opinion isn't a position, that takes more than, hey, i don't like that. I'd like him to be more knowledgeable than my friends and me.  There must be something more?  


Hillary - alternative energy
by anna shane on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:28:41 PM EST
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Who doesn't have that position (none / 0)

Who doesn't have that position?

George Bush and guess who else.

From McCain's website:

"John McCain strongly supports the development and deployment of theater and national missile defenses"


by DreamsOfABlueNation on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:52:06 PM EST
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Re: Foreign Policy (2.00 / 2)

Agreed. But a smart candidate must be prepared to take on the missile defense issue without appearing weak.  A smart candidate would say something along these lines:

"I believe first and foremost in protecting America from foreign threats and ensuring we have the latest technology available to protect our people from threats, such as missile attacks. In tandem with this, I also believe we must protect the pocketbooks of Americans. The President cannot sign a blank check to defense contractors. When I am President I will ensure that the weapon systems developed to protect America are cost efficient and effective."

Obviously, this is too nuanced and complicated a position for Obama.


by Larr Johnson on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:38:39 PM EST
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Re: Foreign Policy (none / 0)

Good candidate soundbite.  If McCain tries to push missile defense in a debate, one might also mention technology's impressive ability to hit a target in six out of thirteen rigged demos.  Even if the system could reliably hit a single target without a radio transponder on it to home in on, anyone with the technology to build ICBMs at all could easily surround their warheads with enough decoys to make the defense system useless unless it used a nuke of its own as the kill vehicle, which as far as I know nobody is advocating.  Setting off nukes in sub-orbital space is not a good idea anyway -- EMP's a bitch, especially for a high-tech society like ours.


Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama for President! Beat McCain!
by Alex on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 11:42:40 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Ignorance of Defense (2.00 / 3)

but it sounds so good, how can it be false. Frankly I'm far more concerned about his willingness to keep Blackwater and private armies working for our defense department. i think just the wrongful dealt law suits would eat up the Bush tax cuts for the rich and would not help our standing in the world. I thought he was supposed to know what the rest of the world thinks, what is he thinking?  


Hillary - alternative energy
by anna shane on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:18:24 PM EST

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I saw that report in The Nation this morning.

Very disturbing - he's saying private armies are cool with him out of one side of his mouth while he bashes Hillary for a vote 5 years ago (which he totally mischaractarizes) out of the other.

This guy can NOT be trusted with the title of "Leader of the free world".  No way in hell!


Donate to Hillary Now!
by alegre on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 07:19:38 PM EST
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Another day, another Larry hit diary. (1.66 / 3)

That plum job in the Clinton administration receding rapidly in the rear view mirror.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:23:12 PM EST

when some poeple have... (2.00 / 3)

,..nothing to say, they don't say anything. How many times do you type in that original and pertinent comment, I'd guess more than once a day? Maybe you should update your cut and paste system?  Or xerox it?  


Hillary - alternative energy
by anna shane on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:30:56 PM EST
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Xerox It! I Love It! (2.00 / 1)

Heh - take that haters!


Donate to Hillary Now!
by alegre on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 07:20:27 PM EST
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Re: Another day, another Larry hit diary. (2.00 / 3)

Moron.  How many times must I remind you that I am seeking no job nor would I accept any.  I don't want to take a pay cut and to lose my free time for playing golf.

Now, try discussing substance.  Obviously, over your head.  Typical of an Obama supporter.  Instead of dealing with facts try a piece of irrelevancy.


by Larr Johnson on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:40:39 PM EST
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One thing to look forward to March 5th: (none / 0)

No more idiotic Larry Johnson diaries.  You are not in here to discuss anything, you are here to assassinate the character of Barack Obama.  March 5th, we'll see no more of you, my firm prediction.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 08:40:15 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Ignorance of Defense (2.00 / 1)

My take is he's not really sure what he's suppose to be doing with the US military defense and foreign policy.  So he ends up saying only just the thing that the audience want to here. That's the reason that his message keeps changing all the time.


by JoeySky18 on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:38:58 PM EST

My biggest concern (1.66 / 3)

is that I don't know whether I am supposed to genuflect or prostrate myself to the ground when Obamamessiah enters the room.  Are we allowed to have our heads higher than his, or is this something like, "The King and I," where I should let his head always rise above mine.  

Blessed be Obamamessiah.


That's it, baby; let's go win this election!
by Beltway Dem on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 06:41:33 PM EST

Another troll-rateable comment (none / 0)

But I'll let it pass, given the amount of stress you lot are under.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 08:45:42 PM EST
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I sinned against the divine Obama. (none / 0)

Mercy.


That's it, baby; let's go win this election!
by Beltway Dem on Fri Feb 29, 2008 at 11:06:23 AM EST
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Re: Obama's Ignorance of Defense (none / 0)

Word of advice: try writing something positive about Hillary Clinton for a change.

Oh wait, you don't have anything good to say about her.  All you have is tired, rightwing, freeper, race-baiting, smears on Obama.

What will you do when Hillary Clinton ends her campaign?  Then you will have no excuse for the anti-Obama trash you have peddled here and elsewhere.  Freerepublic will welcome you with open arms.

Troll rate this comment if you wish, but first check the diaries I linked to, they're all here, right on mydd.  Take a close look at the race-baiting one, when he mocks Barack Obama as a "Black Jesus".  Then troll-rate away if you must.


by Skaje on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 07:11:44 PM EST

Re: Obama's Ignorance of Defense (none / 0)

Larry's single handedly smacked down countless freepers and legions of knuckle draggin' droolers - and made them squeal for mercy. More than anyone I know.
Can you say the same?
by durendal on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 07:45:06 PM EST
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Larry is a republican (none / 0)

and a "former" spook.  Kinda makes you go hmmm.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 09:01:34 PM EST
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Arms Control Association doesn't say that, STRATCOM does.  Read your link, ACA is asking STRATCOM questions, the reason being that our representative to a UN arms control conference in 2007 claimed that "U.S. nuclear forces are not and have never been on hair-trigger alert," a claim which was immediately ridiculed by ACA, among a great many others.

STRATCOM claims that the "turn the keys, push the button" launch-in-seconds trigger shouldn't be called "hair", because although it is our highest level of alert, we only keep several hundred missiles at that level 24/7.  Since we could go to an even higher survivability level, where we also circle bombers around the north pole and order our submarines underwater, it's not fair to call it "hair-trigger".

Most people don't find that argument convincing, including the UN.


by HEAP on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 07:14:22 PM EST

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Well done, Larry. Body shots, me like.
Wanna have a laugh?
Check out O's military adviser Ret. Gen. McPeak's
short- lived USAF officer dressies - kind of a cross between, Delta, the RAF and Star Trek - they're really cute and nifty. I betcha McPeak was pissed that they dropped them right after he was replaced.
Check this shit out, my friend. Scroll down to the 2nd pic...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrill_A._ McPeak


by durendal on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 07:35:43 PM EST

And while you're at it, check this out: (none / 0)

"Now, which Presidential candidate is calling for talks with Iran? You do not have to be Karl Rove or Lee Atwater to figure out how to tie Obama with Ahmadinejad .... - Larry C. Johnson @ Huffington Post"

What a piece of work.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 09:08:18 PM EST
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